Ask the Expert: Uncover your Hidden Mind with Brian and Christine Phillips

Michelle Abraham: 00:00:03

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Christine Phillips: 00:01:04

Oh, you're welcome. Lovely. Thank you lovely to be talking to you. I'm Christine. He'll talk about himself in a moment. And I am the author behind the online app called your hidden mind, which is currently in use all over the world. I am the author of the reps, the rhythmic activating pros, the pros that utilizes the science of memory reconsolidation to open old doors that drive and support behavioral and health issues that that you feel today when you open old doors unexpectedly. And that's the key point unexpectedly, that is unconsciously your brain automatically makes adjustments, believe it or not, we are that clever. And these adjustments take place as your conscious defenses that as your thinking is not already locked in. And that's why the unexpected nature is so important. Okay. And Brian, I'll tell you a bit about himself

Brian Phillips: 00:02:06

And I was the person who sort of got us into this way back then, over 20 years ago, okay, when I was looking for some way I was out in the commercial world, for the first time, it's such a life wasn't heading the right direction, it's military. And so I was looking for something to help me get through at night try to or you name it, I looked at all the different mindsets and things like modalities and everything. And I came across EFT tapping and that struck ring a bell. So I got heavily into that. But after a while of working with that, and working with people, I realized it had limitations in that it when you want it to use it for yourself on yourself in the moment in the moment. And it works really well when you're working with somebody because everything that controls us or drives us, especially as entrepreneurs or business people is we're driven or anything in life, we're all driven by our memories which are held in our subconscious without those we couldn't survive, we couldn't function. And getting into our subconscious ourselves is just about impossible, we need an outside do a conscious trigger to get behind those protections that have we have. And that's where working with people does help because they can say things which are unexpected. But we needed to we worked out that we needed a tool that we could use in the moment, yeah, when we're on our own, grab your phone, you know, wherever and we can't pick up and find out counselor or consultant or whatever. So that's where we decided we had to look into something different. And we did a lot of research, a lot of background study a lot of emphasis and that's where we got into the neuroscience of memory reconsolidation. And that's where it's like a stand up comedy or poetry, it takes you down a route and suddenly goes sideways. Okay, and the unexpected happens and that and that's what triggers your subconscious and a way way way back memory that you didn't even know was there. And you may not even appreciate it when it is there. That's the that is the trigger the underlying the basis of what you do today.

Christine Phillips: 00:04:19

That's what allows your brain to do the healing. We all know that we can heal ourselves if we cut our skin that's not the bandage we are in control of healing those cells and we can also do the same for anything that's going on upstairs here.

Brian Phillips: 00:04:35

So that's why we read up the system Sally 100% without any external source, we develop the system your hidden mind and rhythmic activating prose which Christine has written every single word

Michelle Abraham: 00:04:49

Wow, that's so interesting. So take us back to something you said that I was like, I'm not sure audience is gonna know what that is. What is memory reconcilation or reconsolidation is are you saying? Yeah,

Christine Phillips: 00:05:00

reconsolidation? Well, it's just what Brian described, your memories are sitting in constellations up here, we don't make new constellations, we only have a limited number, by the time you're about four or five, you've got your maximum number, and then you gradually decide what you need to keep to survive for your life, every person to survive needs, attention and protection. And each one of us individually decides what we need to keep. And we keep those core moments in here. And then every time something happens in a similar vein, we activate that that particular constellation and, and that then makes us behave to protect ourselves in the same way each and every time. But what happens is, you're now layering and layering and layering all these other emotional events on top of the core work. And so our behaviors sometimes get worse and worse and worse, as we get older, more more and more fearful as we age, children are not fearful. But we should learn how to be fearful around certain things. And most people, when they address their problems, once they're older, they look at the peak of their problem, and try to whittle their way down to find out what's going on, well, you'll never get there, because what is stored in the core is stored at a time pre four years old, most likely, when you are unable to access those cool moments as a picture. And we all look for pictures whenever we want to try and recall something that we think needs fixing. So you have to be able to look at things from this unexpected angle, as Brian said. And as you do that, your brain is so clever, it sees that moment from a wider angle, an angle of more life experience. And in that moment, your brain dilutes how you stored it first stored Yeah. And all your edit on things, that there is only one way to get into the court. And that is through unconscious mean something into your subconscious, unconsciously.

Brian Phillips: 00:07:18

So memory, is that true is that finding that original memory with all the intensity and emotion and everything that happened? That's the first time you learned so it's huge. Its massive, and memory consolidation has now looking at it from a new perspective so that it can now reevaluate it and learn reactions. Yeah, change it. So you see it differently. less intensity,

Christine Phillips: 00:07:44

no one can tell you how to do that. You have to find your own way as an individual back to your beginnings.

Brian Phillips: 00:07:52

And this is what it does. Because each of us is utterly unique. Yeah, I feel unique. You can be in exactly the same environment at exactly the same time with a sibling. Like you will interpret it totally differently, and sue them and store different emotions different does that help? You?

Michelle Abraham: 00:08:09

Know, yeah, and I'm laughing because my brother and I always like talk about memories of our childhood. And we were recording a podcast for my mom, Mother's Day, about some of the memories we have of her and everything. And Andrea has like kind of remembered that way. He's like, Yeah, having like this, I'm like, No, I haven't like this is totally different.

Christine Phillips: 00:08:28

Oh, yeah. And consequently, how you each remembered those things are part and parcel of her how you're now driven to behave one way and he's driven to behave another way. That's that's just what we are. We are nothing but a journey of our experiences. But how those experiences now drivers can be quite harmful.

Michelle Abraham: 00:08:51

Right? Yeah, it's interesting. So, you know, looking at your hidden mind for is really for people that want to achieve the mental and emotional freedom, right? Like we all are, like, especially as entrepreneurs, I feel like we get to a certain level and then we get stuck or get stagnant. So this is really to help you conquer those like habits and fears, anxiety, that kind of thing.

Brian Phillips: 00:09:14

I mean, it does everything, right, it stops you procrastinating with all those things you say

Michelle Abraham: 00:09:19

we're entrepreneurs,

Brian Phillips: 00:09:22

because entrepreneurs and it's all fear based and fear based on something that you that you individually experience and never knew what it was until the experience that and that's what's driving you and

Christine Phillips: 00:09:35

your hidden mind is not a quick fix. Because we are so many our brain contains all this information we have approximately 50,000 moments a day that our brains recording. And so the scale there that may have to be looked at as quite large. So your hidden mind is a daily process of literally just picking picking, picking picking And you don't have to try to pick up like, quickly I'll just quickly say if you've got a habit like smoking, drinking procrastinating whatever it is trying to change that will only make it worse. But with this system, you change the need to have that. And so one day, you suddenly just discover, I'm just doing it. I'm not procrastinating. I forgotten that I was a smoker, I forgotten that I was a drink or whatever it is. There's no, we never tell anyone to try to change anything, because that only makes it worse.

Brian Phillips: 00:10:35

And this other point quickly, sir, is that this is where our system is unique. We do not the way it works is actually unique without instruction now instructions, and you don't look, I have this problem. I'm a procrastinator, where is the activating pros. It doesn't work like that. Because that's only a symptom. It's only a symptom. And that's what catches people out of it. What we say is just you pick a number, that's how the system works. And your brain will find the appropriate rep that you actually need in the moment, the moment which may have nothing. The title would be nothing to do with procrastination. Right in the rack, there is something there that will link you back to what is causing you this fear your fear.

Christine Phillips: 00:11:23

Yeah, we love entrepreneurs take this new.

Michelle Abraham: 00:11:26

Yeah, I love it. So you're so this is an app. So it's all done on your own, it could be on a mobile device that you're you're listening to these, right? So I'm imagining that I am taking my lunch break, and I'm going out for a walk and I'm listening to I have to be lying down or can I be active and moving?

Brian Phillips: 00:11:42

You can read read it or you can listen to audio, audio.

Michelle Abraham: 00:11:48

For us podcasters that like listening to audio? That's perfect. Yeah, so that's the 25% of the world that are the audio learners are really gonna enjoy that part of it. They can take it with you and listen to it. So that's amazing. And then can you share a couple of stories of of students or people that you've seen come take some of this, take use this system and see some results?

Brian Phillips: 00:12:15

He's a perfect

Christine Phillips: 00:12:17

example. But we weren't worry about me. Okay, until, Oh, wow. Until one day, I'm in my office and the office, the other folk came and said, Christine, are you coming out? I said, coming out for what we're going out for smoko. I said, Well, why would I and I just realized in that moment, I had actually forgotten I was dedicated 47 year smoker who would have left her family rather than stop smoking. But that's just one thing. We have so many people who discover something about themselves that they never knew somebody who has spent their whole life working of office work or whatever it is, suddenly discover that what they actually are is an artist, run lady we have brilliant, yeah, just you this just happens over and over. Suddenly, somebody discovers there's a poet inside them. And and this thing changes sometimes the direction the entrepreneur is wanting to go, but it always ends up adding a flavor to their work that they are now totally connected to, is it's quite extraordinary writers stunt who get to be blocked, certainly outcome the stories, sports people, as another thing, you can be a golfer and your you can say i My score is 71. And you can almost guarantee that until wrapping that go out first nine holes, I think he I'm going to get below 71 This time, by the time they get to the end, they're back to 71. So what happens with wrapping suddenly, that the focus shifts from that aim, it's just I'm playing and they get to the end, and they have improve their score. How did that happen? Sure thing, take away the fear, take away the fear, and the entrepreneurs just blossom.

Brian Phillips: 00:14:14

And it also does help your health. Because as an entrepreneur, there are a lot of stressors and things that go on in your life. And whenever you use stress, your body is reacting to it, or your cells are reacting. They are generating hormones and chemicals and all that. And if we constantly do that, we have to damage ourselves.

Christine Phillips: 00:14:34

We are just a machine making our own cells day in day

Brian Phillips: 00:14:37

out. And we just if we keep replacing those cells with cells with the same memories and the same stress and all that involved, we're just going to keep doing the same damage. What we found with your hidden mind system is that takes that away and you're able to replace your cells with Karma new cells with a different layer effect and outcome outcome takes it out.

Christine Phillips: 00:15:00

So many people say, I've got this and I've got that. And why have I got that arts? Because of my age because of this? No, it's not. It was way deeper than that. And that age is really not something that you need to blame for getting anything. Your fears have been repeated. So often, it ends up impacting you, as you age, rather.

Michelle Abraham: 00:15:26

I would imagine, like, you know, down the road, you might find some direct correlation between cancer cells and, you know, doing this work on your mind to because very different gosh,

Brian Phillips: 00:15:37

yeah, I'll give you a little, he'll just give you one quick one quick run. Some years ago, I was having my annual prostate check. And they discovered I had to miss two tumors, the most aggressive kind, yeah, they test them. And the guy just said, Well, I have to get you to the hospital. Because if we don't, this is gonna spread. And he said, Well, I can't, because I'm fully booked for a fortnight. I apologize. But that's all I can do. I said, don't worry about it. Alright, work out what worked for it. All right.

Christine Phillips: 00:16:11

Because none of us know we've got cancer until someone says, Hey, you've got cancer, right? Yeah.

Brian Phillips: 00:16:16

It's like the rest of the body. You don't know rust isn't a thing until it pops out to you. Anyway, he worked. I worked on myself for just wrapping, went into the hospital, had the operation. And he came out and said, I can't believe it. There was only one, one left, and it was much smaller. And it nothing has spread to any of the other cells or lymph glands or anything, no chemo, no, nothing, nothing, no treatment afterwards, nothing. And in fact, it was quite funny because that I was had no pain, no discomfort. And the one nurse came and said to take your painkillers and said, I don't need them. Thank you. Everyday, why won't you take your pain? I don't need them in the modern pain. I don't have any punches. You have to you've had a major operation. I said, Give me your painkiller. I'll take it. Now. Does that make you feel happy? Thank you, because I didn't need it.

Brian Phillips: 00:17:15

So I don't say I'm not saying that system cures cancer or anything like that.

Christine Phillips: 00:17:23

Somehow you disrupted your self production process through your life experiences, and which only you know.

Michelle Abraham: 00:17:35

I'd imagine I'm that would imagine that this would do wonders for weight loss as well of this something that's been triggered and blocking, blocking someone from doing I know, that constant cycle. Yeah,

Christine Phillips: 00:17:47

anything that's traumatized you on a cellular level will have an impact on your body. Yeah, anything, anything. And what happens is, people who are carrying weight, and in particular areas of their body, because one person says I've got all my weight and my thighs and other ones got all their weight and their chairs, and other ones got it all on their belly. That's because the traumas that impacted them from their life experiences, were all focused in one particular sensation that they were feeling or affected by. So it's quite, it's quite clear as to which one when you start doing

Michelle Abraham: 00:18:30

interesting thought, yeah, and that's why it's so great to to hear like that you've had so many life changing results, or seeing people just change their life, so many different ways. Now you wish someone would download the app? And it's a monthly subscription to the app that you can then do this as often as you like, or is there something that you need to do as a certain stock kind of thing? Or how does that work?

Brian Phillips: 00:18:54

Okay, so what happens is we have a membership, and you can either do it monthly for 9099 years, or 188 a year annually.

Christine Phillips: 00:19:02

And just one little point there, when you get your subscription, you can then share it with your family members. So that subscription is now divided by how many people you choose to out to use it. Okay, so

Brian Phillips: 00:19:17

it has your email and your password, it's yours, okay. And you can take it anywhere you go, because it's on your phone or your laptop or whatever. Right now, because we're working with a university that is now going to set up a as a pilot study. We've actually set up a pre pilot study trial, okay, which is a 28 day set up program, which we can use, and we're offering it like to you if you'd like to do it and take part and what all it entails is doing 20 minutes twice a day of reading or listening to some reps. And that's about it 28 days, and at the end

Christine Phillips: 00:19:55

of the day, there's a questionnaire but we don't record any of it. formation whatsoever with the system, we we don't ask anyone to tell us our problem we ask the program asks you to tell yourself, so you get to answer your questions, but hide them away. You do this for about a month or two months, or whatever you want to do. And then you answer the same questions, then you go back and get your first one. And you compare them. And you get to see your life changing. It's of no value to anyone else. This is important to you alone.

Brian Phillips: 00:20:29

very personal, very private. That's and that's what we want. We work on our system. It's personal and private.

Christine Phillips: 00:20:35

Yeah. That's it. So anyway,

Michelle Abraham: 00:20:37

is not your I love that it's not your your subconscious brain telling you, you need to quit smoking. You need to listen to this. Right? How is very subconscious. So

Christine Phillips: 00:20:49

yeah, yeah, yes. That's damaging, trying to tell yourself to do anything, but I bet no one can make another person do anything. You know, you ask a husband or a wife.

Brian Phillips: 00:21:00

Yeah. This free trial is free that at the moment, just

Michelle Abraham: 00:21:06

Yeah. Very cool. Oh, that sounds awesome. I'd love to try it out. I think that sounds sounds cool. You're welcome. You're welcome. And I imagined that this would be so interesting for you, I just see so many entrepreneurs starting businesses, and they get to a certain point they give up they fail and like oftentimes, they're just so close to like making it work but something's sabotage them and stop them in their tracks from like, going any further. Yeah, it'd be really cool.

Christine Phillips: 00:21:34

Nothing sabotaging them. It is always your individual entrepreneurs doing it to themselves. And that's key. What you're, what you're saying is brilliant. Yeah.

Michelle Abraham: 00:21:45

Yeah. So fascinating. Wow, that's really cool. So for people who want to go check it out, they would go to your hidden mind calm, and go check out more about you guys there. And they'd love to hear just a little bit more about before we let you guys go. What are some of your favorite things that you've seen happen from from someone using this and we touched on a couple of them, which I think is fantastic. Your story about smoking was amazing. My dad used to have a laser life quit smoking business back in back in the day. And that was really interesting to see. But this sounds something like like you just forget about this. So cool. And I'd love to know how like, what was the story? touched on it a little bit from the military and getting into EFT. But then how did you come up with the system?

Christine Phillips: 00:22:32

On wow, that's really interesting. We are a family business, okay, entirely. Everything's in the family. Brian started this over 20 years ago, in his in curious mind wanting to know, something else he felt there will have had to be something beyond what he was seeing out there. And that's how he ended up in EFCs. He said, so from EFT he recognized so much was going on there. But what we did is

Brian Phillips: 00:23:05

we appeared on

Christine Phillips: 00:23:06

everything. Yeah. We started running classes in our home. And we had people coming out the woodwork to do EFT. But we recognize the limitations because each person is so unique. Each person required individual attention in reality. And and that's just because as I said to survive, we all need attention and protections. And so if we don't get individual attention, we start blowing things up bigger and bigger and bigger to get that attention. Right?

Brian Phillips: 00:23:45

Yeah, the thing is that people kept saying, Could you write down what you just said? Could you give me some words to you? Yeah, that was another No, I can't because Well, Brian

Christine Phillips: 00:23:53

was a chronic dyslexic until rapping. So he could not write things down. And so I said, Hang on a minute. I'm a wordsmith, authorized it down for you. And that's how I came in from the word point of view. Right. But I also spend over 40 years with language schools and with physical fitness, health and fitness in that arena, and I was still doing that very thing. So the whole thing tied together. But this all took a long time. This is not just quick. Along the way, our daughter Glenda, who's quite a smart little cookie, was noticing that all the changes in these people and she was really curious, because she was skeptical that this could possibly work. I mean, really skeptical. So she went and started studying what we were doing from a neuroscience perspective. And she looked into and studied the brain, the brain, the brain, the brain, the brain, and realized just what it was that we were doing. Alright, From there, it is just grown, because we originally had the whole thing in print in a print form our little box, and then it had to grow into an online business people said, Come on, get get with it go online, developed the online system. And then online, it's all very well, but there are a lot of people who don't want to be online. And that's when we went. And I wrote the books for the guest what series which can be utilized and work in the same way. And so this is, this is how it all came about. Does that help you?

Michelle Abraham: 00:25:45

Yeah, yeah. It's love hearing the backstory of how something started with an idea. And I love that it's a family business. And you guys can all do it together. And it's something that you're all passionate about. And I love that your daughter went back to school and really dug into the neuroscience and realized that you guys were in crazy, you it was not like legit, like you were doing,

Christine Phillips: 00:26:06

I think some of the most skeptical, but he is now the business manager.

Michelle Abraham: 00:26:15

That's great. I love that so much. So cool. So I'm looking forward to hearing more about this from you guys. And I'm going to dive into your guys to your your case study group. And I will report back to you amplify you podcast listeners out there, as to what I experienced over my next 28 days, checking this out and feeling, seeing what my mind is gonna uncover that is hidden and preventing me from belonging through my entrepreneurial goals, my health goals and see what else is in there.

Brian Phillips: 00:26:48

That's brilliant. And of course, we do have a Facebook page, your hidden mind. And on there you will, you'll see that we put up our videos that we do during the week. So you can get those all reduced free. And we have a subgroup Action Group. And people put numbers in there.

Christine Phillips: 00:27:06

If they want to ask questions, you know, any mind Action Group? If they want private, private conversations with us that can go there. And when they when you go to your hidden mind, you will see not only Brian and I, but our we have facilitators around the world, you'll see other people doing the wrapping as well.

Michelle Abraham: 00:27:27

Wow, that's awesome. For any of us words for our audience out there, guys, before we let you go, I know Brian, you're just about to say something really good. All right, this

Brian Phillips: 00:27:39

email address that you use is this one that you want us to use.

Christine Phillips: 00:27:45

Your entrepreneurs don't try fighting by yourself or by thinking you can solve your problem by thinking that's just an argument with yourself.